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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Bronwyn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>WoW…two huge items in the one day!!!...Insurance and now
copyright!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I am sure there are more expert legal eagles out there than me,
but I share some of your difficulties and the way we were advised is as
follows.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ownership of an item, doesn’t mean ownership of copyright,
just the physical thing that you have.(very important, this relates to photos
as well!)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think there is a statute of limitations for copyright of
different things, and the Copyright Council should be able to advise you on
that, but we were advised to make every attempt to find the owner of the item
and if possible have them sign the goods AND the copyright over to the museum,
which we have been able to do in a small number of cases. This is dependent on
your record keeping, and if like me, your collection “grew” without
the addition of a lot of paperwork, that is a very onerous task.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Secondly, we were advised that if you have made this earnest
attempt, and failed, provided that you publicly state your attempts to find the
copyright owner, then to go ahead and show the material but with a covering
statement something like “if you feel you are the copyright owner of this
item and it is being shown, exhibited/reproduced without your permission,
please contact……. and it will be immediately stopped….”
Someone here just said it is easier to beg forgiveness than to ask
for permission and if you have tried and failed, the likelihood of the owner stepping
up is slim. That’s a bit cavalier of them but they have a point.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The videos from the television should be easier to find the ‘owner’
from the channel markers in the show, and sometimes you may be able to get an
ok from the channels for viewing of older items especially through an
educational institution like a museum.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But on the other side of the coin, I get my nose right out of
joint if someone uses one of our images a./ without permission or b./ without acknowledgement,
but what really gets on my wick are those that use them for commercial
purposes, making money from us without a or b above. We are pretty easy to
find, and very specific so on their part it’s blatant, if you have tried
and failed (earnestly) then that’s another story.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That was our advice (and my 2 bob’s worth), hopefully
someone with more copyright law experience will pop up in this forum with
something more in-depth<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";
color:#C00000'>John<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";
color:#C00000'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";
color:#C00000'>John Watson</span></b><b><span style='font-size:4.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#C00000'> </span></b><b><span
style='font-size:4.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></b><span
style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(GDBMT,
GDIT, CNA)</span><b><span style='font-size:4.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Manager-Gwalia Historic Site<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Leonora Gwalia Historical Museum Ltd<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>PO Box 111 or Tower St<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Leonora 6438 Gwalia WA<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ph/Fax: (08) 9037 7122<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mob: 04199 58199<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>email: gwalia@emerge.net.au<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>www.gwalia.org.au<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
can-talk-bounces@collectionsaustralia.net
[mailto:can-talk-bounces@collectionsaustralia.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bronwyn
Alcorn<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 January 2008 14:18<br>
<b>To:</b> can-talk@collectionsaustralia.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [can-talk] another film collection based question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I thought while the list had a lot of activity on it I might
throw in a slightly curly question and see if the combined brains of this
list can help. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I have, for the past year, been sticking my head in the sand
over the vast collection of audio visual material held by the Australian Tennis
Museum, however can't keep doing this and the more I look into the project of
storing and digitising these the bigger the problems seem to get. So to
start with I have a few questions about putting the collection on DVD and I'm
really hoping there is someone on this list who knows a bit about copyright. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>The background to the collection is this - it was developed
by volunteers over 25 years before being taken over by Tennis NSW 2 years ago
and a single paid staff member was installed. The volunteers who
developed the collection had a small amount of training and knowledge in
collecting, but mostly good intentions and an excellent knowledge of
tennis. Thus much of the collection is in dissarry with very poor records.
The AV collection suffers from this the most. The AV collection has over
400 items ranging from 8mm film to commercial VHS and almost everything in
between. I would like to be able to show some of this collection in the
museum as it relates to exhibitions, but am a)unable to show much of it due to
the formatting and b) unsure of what I can show due to copyright issues. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>So my main questions to all those on the list are these<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>1) The information on the copyright council site says
that it is allowable to make a single copy of a Commercial video that
you own onto DVD for private and domestic use. There is also a
legislation about using copied material for educational purposes. Does
the general museum audience attending for an exhibition fall under educational
purposes, and can I therefore copy these commercial videos onto DVD so they can
be shown in the museum? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>2) The collection holds some significant items and
matches of great interest on reel film, mostly from the 40s - 70s. The
records do not show how we came by these (other than those marked as
deaccessioned from a library) or give any information about who recorded these
etc. I do not have the equipment to view these, and am a bit
hesitant about trying to view them given their age and my complete lack of
knowledge about reel film. Can I make copies of these to show
in the museum or do I need to do a whole lot of research into the ownership and
status of them for copyright purposes? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>3) There are a vast number of videos copied off the
TV, that volunteers have brought into the museum, some of these are of
important tennis matches and are ones that the coaches here are the academy
would like to be able to show their students to discuss different techniques
and developments in tennis. I know that these legally shouldn't
exist - is there anyway I can let the coaches use them, or better yet, be able
to show them in the museum? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for your help,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Bronwyn Alcorn<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Manager<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Australian Tennis Museum<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>ph 02 9024 7607<o:p></o:p></p>
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