[can-talk] can-talk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 9

What other lists??!! I feel like I have missed an important announcement
somewhere. I agree with Kay, can we have just one list? For discussion,
information, jobs and notices, and anything else we can think of.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Censorship (Doreen Mellor)
   2. Censorship (Michelle Smith)
   3. Re: Insuring Historical colelcitons (Laura Stedman)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:27:32 +1100
From: "Doreen Mellor" <dmellor at nla.gov.au>
Subject: Re: [can-talk] Censorship
To: "Merle Hathaway" <merle.hathaway at hrcc.vic.gov.au>,
	<Sebastian.Gurciullo at prov.vic.gov.au>
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Thank you Merle; I have read your comments over the years and enjoyed
them. I agree with your remarks on this subject. It's great to connect
and converse on a human level. And if it's a day that's too busy (or
serious!)to respond or engage with museum chat, it's pretty easy to pass
it by and delete.

Doreen

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National Library of Australia 
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:can-talk-bounces at collectionsaustralia.net] On Behalf Of Merle
Hathaway
Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2008 12:36 PM
To: Sebastian.Gurciullo at prov.vic.gov.au
Cc: CAN Talk
Subject: Re: [can-talk] Censorship

Over the past couple of years I have tried to respond to various
comments by others - sometimes a bit tongue in cheek - like suggesting
we needed elastic walls for growing collections & display needs (& of
course there are actually wall systems that do this).

And  my comment yesterday originally was blocked.

My point is that even though I feel swamped by the ever-growing demands
of "paperwork" - reporting etc, it is great to have a "conversation"
with colleagues in a wide variety of museums across the country
(including the doily and machinery ones!). I like to see those queries,
(& will follow this with one of my own) but a little chatter is good
too. It's human.
m

Merle Hathaway
Director
Horsham Regional Art Gallery
80 Wilson Street, Horsham, Victoria 3400, Australia
(03) 5362 2880 t  (03) 5382 5407 f
Work mobile: 0447 595455
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Subject: Re: [can-talk] Censorship


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> exchanging useful information, is it worth asking what it was about 
> Merle's
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:33:44 +1000
From: Michelle Smith <Michelle_Smith at redcliffe.qld.gov.au>
Subject: [can-talk] Censorship
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Can I also add my voice to the call for one listserve - frankly until
Joy's email I wasn't really much aware of the other list-serves as I
(stupidly it turns out) thought it was just like AMOL and had decided
that people just weren't posting much stuff anymore.  Listserves aren't
about just providing information to the masses - they are about
discussion  - and currently that is a bit thin on the ground (except for
today of course!).  If that discussion is somewhat contentious then so
be it - isn't that what museums are supposed to be about - questioning
the norms and challenging convention?
 
Michelle Smith
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:40:46 +1100
From: Laura Stedman <laurastedman at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [can-talk] Insuring Historical colelcitons
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That is no small issue you raise there Susan.  It often depends on the
type of collection. 
 
I've noticed often collections are not insured precisely because the
items are irreplaceable and institutions usually cannot afford insurance
cover. This is particularly relevant to social history collections (and
very relevant to sport collections in my experience), as it it often the
story and provenance behind and object which is of significance and the
object itself does not really hold any innate value. However one
institution I worked in was part of a larger organisation which paid the
cover and it was for 'replacement value - like for like'. Which
generally means current market value. Not particularly helpful if it is
an object of special provenance which is lost.
 
In some institutions (often in galleries) they choose to pay for
insurance cover as they feel it is essential to have the funds to
rebuild the collection if something was to happen to it. 'Like for like'
is a little more useful when rebuilding an art collection but clearly
not perfect.
 
Valueing a social history collection can be a nightmare too, thousands
of random objects, so I often wonder how you insure for a value which is
usually unknown.
 
There is nothing like avoiding a problem in the first place.
 
I hope this helps somewhat.
 
Laura Stedman
 
Collection and Exhibitions Manager
Heide Museum of Modern Art
Bulleen, Victoria
 


Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:46:29 +0900From: Su.Ferreira at fesa.wa.gov.auTo:
k at preservationaustralia.com.au; merle.hathaway at hrcc.vic.gov.au;
can-talk at collectionsaustralia.netSubject: [can-talk] Insuring Historical
colelcitons







Good morning all, (those of you on the western sea board I guess!!)
 
I have a question... it is concerned with the complex issue of insuring
historical collections and if so to what level?  Insurance being part of
the overall framework of disaster planning and preparedness I would
gratefully receive anyone's comments or opinions on insurance. 
 
Is it worth insuring something you cannot replace if stolen or
destroyed?
Does anyone use the a level of insurance that provides cover for repair
and restoration only?  If the objects survives a disaster, that costs
are covered to clean up and restore.
How do you value an object in financial terms which holds only local
heritage value and provenance.... like horses hooves taken from a fire
brigade horse as a memento post mortem? 
 
Any comments????
 
Cheers
Susan Ferreira Curator/Project Manager FESA Community Hazard Awareness
Centre & Museum Community Development Fire & Emergency Services
Authority of WA 
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Strategy: conserving cultural heritage and helping to build sustainable
and resilient communities.


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[mailto:can-talk-bounces at collectionsaustralia.net] On Behalf Of Kay
SoderlundSent: Thursday, 17 January 2008 8:06 AMTo: 'Merle Hathaway';
'CAN Talk'Subject: Re: [can-talk] Censorship

I fully agree with your sentiments Merle. It seems to me that the change
in format from one discussion list on AMOL to the several different
lists on CAN has resulted in a marked lessening of any type of
discussion. A once vibrant and informative list on AMOL has turned into
a notice board of events and job postings. I can?t remember the last
interesting discussion that came up on CAN-talk. Perhaps it is time to
re-consider the format and go back to just one list to deal with all
communication needs?
 
Kay Soderlund
Preservation Australia
 




From: can-talk-bounces at collectionsaustralia.net
[mailto:can-talk-bounces at collectionsaustralia.net] On Behalf Of Merle
HathawaySent: Wednesday, 16 January 2008 12:12 PMTo: CAN TalkSubject:
[can-talk] Censorship
 


As it is early in the year, and I'm not yet too busy to deal with this
little irritation, I'll air it now. So could this please go through for
comment by those CAN talk is supposed to serve - us, the subscribers. 

 

Since Can Talk replaced the AMOL listing I've tried several times to
make comments, only to be told by the "gatekeeper" that my comments were
not appropriate or should be elsewhere. 

 

I've always considered this a forum, especially useful for people like
me who are isolated from their colleagues and remote from the large
centres. Over the years I have really enjoyed the camaraderie we had.
But our little chats and comments have now gone. There's little "talk".

 

I know we are all busy, and no-one appreciates being bombarded by
trivia, but really, if the only comments allowed relate to obscure
pieces of farm machinery, knitted doilies etc, then it becomes too dry
and discouraging of discussion.

 

What do you think?

 

regards

m

 
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